Trump never said any of those things. Latinos don’t want illegal immigration either. If you racist leftist people treated everyone equally and took 5 mins to actually talk to Latinos you would know that. Also Latinos are pro-family, pro-life and don’t want their children indoctrinated into LGBTG ideology.
Again if you bothered to talk to Latinos you would know that. No one wants illegal immigration except white upper class people who are clueless to the effect of illegal immigration to the working class. Btw Latinos HATE being called Latinx too.
It’s insulting since Spanish is a gendered language. An article like this shows you are all still refusing to take 20 mins to step back and see why you lost so badly and everywhere except the states totally controlled by White liberals e.g. CA, WA, OR, CO.
Keep this up and the Democrats will end up like the Whigs.
I watched that speech and others he made. Cause I wanted to know if what people said on big brothers programming divine was true. I don’t always believe what I’m told . So I go and research for myself. I listen to both sides . And he never said all coming across the boarder were rapist and criminals. He also said there were some good also. Why would you leave that part out. Is it to cause division and spread the propaganda that the news media has been spreading? As I am married to a Latino and my best friend is a Orthodox Jew. My family is mixed . I really expected better research from you sir. 😞😒
Looks are superficial, facts, those pesky things, are core. You must be mistaking harshly edited, misquoted and intentionally deceitful statements attributed that were completely out of context or factual statements censored.
Look a bit deeper than murky and friable cnn, pmsnbc,pbs , the view and the “White House” before you represent your nonsensical tds rant as (fake) facts. If you expect to be taken with a tiny modicum of seriousness facts for all sides are not negotiable. Quid pro quo.
Absolutely correct 💯 I know several Jews , Blacks and Latinos who voted for trump. I’ve seen so many people leave the Democratic Party . And when a Kennedy leaves the Democratic Party you know it’s gone off the rails. This article is full of lies . I really expected better from this writer.
I don't believe the author is endorsing either party. He's merely pointing out the demographic shifts in allegiance (or the lack of movement for Blacks and Jews). The end goal is cooperation.
Of course he is , ridiculous! Did you truly read this article or just emotionally attach to the concept that matches your confirmation bias, read prejudice. That article is the exact opposite of encouraging cooperation. You seem to only, like author, lust for domination. Lacking that that, resort to false smears and dehumanizing personal and group insults.
Want to be taken seriously? Engage in mature debate, not base conjecture and alienation of those who disagree with your exalted stances.
Really? Blacks and Jews face common issues? Apart from a few genuine nut jobs no one advocates killing Black Americans - that doesn’t mean prejudice doesn’t exist but it is moderated. As for Jews major powers continue to plan out extermination (“in every generation there will arise”). Moreover I have found far more Jew hatred in the Black community than among other American groups.
I promise that you don't know more about the Black community than I do! Other than some (very) small Black Supremacist circles, we barely mention Jewish people. To me, that is an issue in and of itself. The only place I am seeing the antisemitism start to crop up is rap songs mentioning Gaza, which are few and far between.
It is also pretty amazing that there is a new rush to pretend that many right-wing White Americans have not built an antisemitic subculture that has been around for at least a century! All this whitewashing of antisemitism to give support to Trump and smack the Democrats? Really? That makes no more sense than left-wingers embracing Hamas because they are (erroneously) equating Zionism with Capitalism & Colonialism.
Please go visit White antisemite groups vs Black antisemite groups. The White groups are orders of magnitude larger.
Now you call Trump an antisemite — when his own daughter and son-in-law are both Jewish? You really might want to think about writing such stupid nonsense for the whole world to read.
This will never happen. Black have become the most viscous anti Semites in America because they have been told by their “educated” racist scum that white privileged is what’s causing their poverty and that Jews control everything.
But instead of understanding English and responding accordingly when blacks lead the charge in support of the Palestinian murdered , moronic Jews continue to pour money into their organizations and support these black racists.
And the result. They and their children are assaulted , hounded, and threatened in every city controlled by the black racists who do not lift a finger to stop it.
I’d like to have a dollar for everytime I’ve been asked by non Jewish friends and acquaintances “what on earth is wrong with you people “.
And there is no answer than you can’t fix stupid.
And the worst are the Jews in Hollywood and tech whose fortunes could counter Soros but instead pour billions into the party run by progressives who hate Israel and Jews.
Buy a fucking gun, learn how to use it, and stop whining to people who won’t give a shit how many times you’re assaulted or threatened.
See who created it and who supports it. Hint: It isn't Black people! Trust, Black people generally fall into 2 groups: One group is positively focusing on improving ourselves and uplifting the community. The other group is negatively focusing on blaming White people for our community issues. But mentions of Jewish people are rarely entering our conversation. The issue is that level of mystery regarding Jewish people WILL lead to antisemitism borne of ignorance.
2 more words: Identity Evropa. A Jewish person siding with them politically because many Jewish people suddenly hate the entire Left is reminiscent of Queers for Palestine (or as it was succinctly titled, Chickens for KFC).
I will go hard against racism, period. It is gross to casually throw consent towards anti-Black racist tropes because the Republican Party is now a better ally to Israel. That type of quid pro quo is never acceptable. I wouldn't embrace an antisemitic group just because they promised to give strong support to the Black community!
I also would not ask a person to support the Democratic Party as it is now! The Dems need deep repair. And based on the "I Hate Trump" fundraising emails I get, the DNC doesn't get it yet. But that doesn't mean that we should give up and choose something that is opposite many of our ideals!
One of the shining lights of Israel is that it is Progressive and can hopefully remain that way!
I can’t agree. The views of BLM showed their true color following 11/7 when they sided with terrorists bent on killing Jews. They turned their Marxist backs on those who fully supported their march against discrimination in the 60’s!
I love this idea. I'm in. Let's make things better! This is how we create positive change. Laws are downstream of culture. Hearts must be touched in both the Black & Jewish communities, while still making the fight against antisemitism the priority. What would be exchanged is something much more powerful than money...
original_e852e782-14ee-4726-b757-f2a22acb3c49_20240731_160839.jpg. I hope you can see a picture of my Jewish husband at his great-grandfather´s burial site in the Bronx, NYC. He was a wonderful doctor who treated Italian immigrants, sculptors, for free. He was so beloved that these immigrants asked for permission to carve his face on the headstone. They were given permission. The family and another generation were doctors in NYC in the 19th and 20th centuries.
I welcome and applaud your wise comments about blacks and Jews. I would, however, supplement your comment by noting that schisms between blacks and Jews predated the 1970's. For example, in the 1968 Teacher's Strike, in NYC, hostility between blacks and Jews became nothing short of explosive.
I have been interested in finding new answers to old problems. All too often, the essays we read are nothing but a tired recapitulation of the conventional wisdom. I have tried to formulate entirely NEW IDEAS regarding blacks and Jews and their tormented history in https://davidgottfried.substack.com/p/blacks-and-jews-and-the-cockeyed
At some point, some folks might want to reevaluate supporting the party that knows they have their vote, no matter how poorly they treat them. Or not. Free country. I didn’t see that you mentioned Asians but they also usually follow this pattern.
Extremely disconcerting that many Jews were unable to think critically and vote in their best interest. About 30 democrats voted for an arms embargo against Israel last week, 1 republican. Our fate as Jews is 100% intertwined with the fate of Israel and to back a party that wishes to see Israel destroyed is a form of suicidal empathy I cannot condone or comprehend. They won’t eat you last my Jewish brothers and sisters. You don’t have the love the big bad orange man, but stop pretending the antisemitism is equivalent or less dangerous amongst Democrats.
Calling BS here. I do not believe for a minute that the Jewish vote for Democrats not only held steady this election, but we reached the lowest point for GOP in 24 years. Just not believable. As the article admits, exit polls "aren't always accurate." That's a huge understatement.
I believe Jews have been slowly but steadily moving rightward since Obama, and even faster after and during Biden-Harris. There's a mountain of indirect evidence supporting this.
Who were you polling, Bernie Sanders? Woody Allen? In some election districts in the north, 100% of Jews voted for Trump. It is pure slander that Jews vote overwhelmingly for Democrats. Speak to anyone who actually practices Judaism, and they will tell you Trump was their only consideration. Who does these polls? How do they define Jew? What is their real agenda?
Studies have shown that the more “religious” (i.e. practicing) Jews are, the more conservative they are. In this election they saw one candidate who happens to have a Jewish daughter and another candidate who bent over backwards to curry the Arab vote with her (many) pro-Palestinian campaign comments. To anyone who cares about Israel the choice was clear. The Democrats showed their true colors when they tried to get all arms sales to Israel stopped — in the middle of fighting TWO wars!
Sorry but the poll( it was a less reliable exit poll that didn’t even survey NY and LA) that showed 79 pct support seems way way off. Non Democratic Party funded polls had it in the low to mid 60s. And even that is probably high. As with other groups, many will not admit to voting for Trump, Jews being a higher likelihood of non admission. I will point at least three items which probably mean Trump received more than recognized.
1. Trump received over 30 pct in NYC. That couldn’t have happened without more Jews voting for Trump ( especially Queens with a large Orthodox population).
2. Many Jews are not comfortable admitting a vote for Trump. They tend to lie to pollsters or they will not vote for either candidate.
3. Democrats lost close to 500,000 votes. Many just didn’t vote or voted uncommitted. Many Jews were in that category ( committed democrats refusing to vote for Harris but couldn’t pull the trigger for Trump).
I anecdotally, know many in the orthodox community and they were the one group who publicly voted for Trump in major numbers. Many conservative denomination friends were on the fence ( and unlikely to admit to a Trump vote).
In short it does the Jewish community no benefit to tout high numbers for Harris, especially when probably not as true as prior years. A bipartisan community is more beneficial, as politicians need to earn our vote by being more pro Israel and more accountable in fighting antisemitism.
It’s Interesting that under Trump the Abraham Accords were signed granting heretofore unheard of diplomatic recognition and cooperation between Israel and four Arab states (UAE, Bahrain, Morocco, and Sudan, and Saudi Arabia is still pending), yet the media gave it scant attention. Al Gore got a Nobel Prize for his slide show with questionable statistics (and a blatantly false quote attributed to Chief Joseph’s love for the Buffalo he never saw in his life) and Obama got one for his Arab world apology tour. Trump facilitated the most momentous diplomatic agreements since Camp David and all there were was crickets. How any Jew can vote Democrat will forever remain a mystery to me.
Trump never said any of those things. Latinos don’t want illegal immigration either. If you racist leftist people treated everyone equally and took 5 mins to actually talk to Latinos you would know that. Also Latinos are pro-family, pro-life and don’t want their children indoctrinated into LGBTG ideology.
Again if you bothered to talk to Latinos you would know that. No one wants illegal immigration except white upper class people who are clueless to the effect of illegal immigration to the working class. Btw Latinos HATE being called Latinx too.
It’s insulting since Spanish is a gendered language. An article like this shows you are all still refusing to take 20 mins to step back and see why you lost so badly and everywhere except the states totally controlled by White liberals e.g. CA, WA, OR, CO.
Keep this up and the Democrats will end up like the Whigs.
Trump said all of those things. You can claim that he didn't, but they are all on record.
Don't make assumptions about who is talking to whom. It's not a good look.
I watched that speech and others he made. Cause I wanted to know if what people said on big brothers programming divine was true. I don’t always believe what I’m told . So I go and research for myself. I listen to both sides . And he never said all coming across the boarder were rapist and criminals. He also said there were some good also. Why would you leave that part out. Is it to cause division and spread the propaganda that the news media has been spreading? As I am married to a Latino and my best friend is a Orthodox Jew. My family is mixed . I really expected better research from you sir. 😞😒
Looks are superficial, facts, those pesky things, are core. You must be mistaking harshly edited, misquoted and intentionally deceitful statements attributed that were completely out of context or factual statements censored.
Look a bit deeper than murky and friable cnn, pmsnbc,pbs , the view and the “White House” before you represent your nonsensical tds rant as (fake) facts. If you expect to be taken with a tiny modicum of seriousness facts for all sides are not negotiable. Quid pro quo.
Absolutely correct 💯 I know several Jews , Blacks and Latinos who voted for trump. I’ve seen so many people leave the Democratic Party . And when a Kennedy leaves the Democratic Party you know it’s gone off the rails. This article is full of lies . I really expected better from this writer.
I don't believe the author is endorsing either party. He's merely pointing out the demographic shifts in allegiance (or the lack of movement for Blacks and Jews). The end goal is cooperation.
Of course he is , ridiculous! Did you truly read this article or just emotionally attach to the concept that matches your confirmation bias, read prejudice. That article is the exact opposite of encouraging cooperation. You seem to only, like author, lust for domination. Lacking that that, resort to false smears and dehumanizing personal and group insults.
Want to be taken seriously? Engage in mature debate, not base conjecture and alienation of those who disagree with your exalted stances.
Really? Blacks and Jews face common issues? Apart from a few genuine nut jobs no one advocates killing Black Americans - that doesn’t mean prejudice doesn’t exist but it is moderated. As for Jews major powers continue to plan out extermination (“in every generation there will arise”). Moreover I have found far more Jew hatred in the Black community than among other American groups.
I promise that you don't know more about the Black community than I do! Other than some (very) small Black Supremacist circles, we barely mention Jewish people. To me, that is an issue in and of itself. The only place I am seeing the antisemitism start to crop up is rap songs mentioning Gaza, which are few and far between.
It is also pretty amazing that there is a new rush to pretend that many right-wing White Americans have not built an antisemitic subculture that has been around for at least a century! All this whitewashing of antisemitism to give support to Trump and smack the Democrats? Really? That makes no more sense than left-wingers embracing Hamas because they are (erroneously) equating Zionism with Capitalism & Colonialism.
Please go visit White antisemite groups vs Black antisemite groups. The White groups are orders of magnitude larger.
Ever heard of KKK, weapon of war invented and mastered by democrats to dehumanize blacks and now Jews who do not bow to master. Seriously!
Now you call Trump an antisemite — when his own daughter and son-in-law are both Jewish? You really might want to think about writing such stupid nonsense for the whole world to read.
I never called Trump an antisemite. Thanks!
This will never happen. Black have become the most viscous anti Semites in America because they have been told by their “educated” racist scum that white privileged is what’s causing their poverty and that Jews control everything.
But instead of understanding English and responding accordingly when blacks lead the charge in support of the Palestinian murdered , moronic Jews continue to pour money into their organizations and support these black racists.
And the result. They and their children are assaulted , hounded, and threatened in every city controlled by the black racists who do not lift a finger to stop it.
I’d like to have a dollar for everytime I’ve been asked by non Jewish friends and acquaintances “what on earth is wrong with you people “.
And there is no answer than you can’t fix stupid.
And the worst are the Jews in Hollywood and tech whose fortunes could counter Soros but instead pour billions into the party run by progressives who hate Israel and Jews.
Buy a fucking gun, learn how to use it, and stop whining to people who won’t give a shit how many times you’re assaulted or threatened.
3 words: Gentile News Network
See who created it and who supports it. Hint: It isn't Black people! Trust, Black people generally fall into 2 groups: One group is positively focusing on improving ourselves and uplifting the community. The other group is negatively focusing on blaming White people for our community issues. But mentions of Jewish people are rarely entering our conversation. The issue is that level of mystery regarding Jewish people WILL lead to antisemitism borne of ignorance.
2 more words: Identity Evropa. A Jewish person siding with them politically because many Jewish people suddenly hate the entire Left is reminiscent of Queers for Palestine (or as it was succinctly titled, Chickens for KFC).
I will go hard against racism, period. It is gross to casually throw consent towards anti-Black racist tropes because the Republican Party is now a better ally to Israel. That type of quid pro quo is never acceptable. I wouldn't embrace an antisemitic group just because they promised to give strong support to the Black community!
I also would not ask a person to support the Democratic Party as it is now! The Dems need deep repair. And based on the "I Hate Trump" fundraising emails I get, the DNC doesn't get it yet. But that doesn't mean that we should give up and choose something that is opposite many of our ideals!
One of the shining lights of Israel is that it is Progressive and can hopefully remain that way!
Very well stated…I agree
I can’t agree. The views of BLM showed their true color following 11/7 when they sided with terrorists bent on killing Jews. They turned their Marxist backs on those who fully supported their march against discrimination in the 60’s!
10/7
I love this idea. I'm in. Let's make things better! This is how we create positive change. Laws are downstream of culture. Hearts must be touched in both the Black & Jewish communities, while still making the fight against antisemitism the priority. What would be exchanged is something much more powerful than money...
original_e852e782-14ee-4726-b757-f2a22acb3c49_20240731_160839.jpg. I hope you can see a picture of my Jewish husband at his great-grandfather´s burial site in the Bronx, NYC. He was a wonderful doctor who treated Italian immigrants, sculptors, for free. He was so beloved that these immigrants asked for permission to carve his face on the headstone. They were given permission. The family and another generation were doctors in NYC in the 19th and 20th centuries.
I welcome and applaud your wise comments about blacks and Jews. I would, however, supplement your comment by noting that schisms between blacks and Jews predated the 1970's. For example, in the 1968 Teacher's Strike, in NYC, hostility between blacks and Jews became nothing short of explosive.
I have been interested in finding new answers to old problems. All too often, the essays we read are nothing but a tired recapitulation of the conventional wisdom. I have tried to formulate entirely NEW IDEAS regarding blacks and Jews and their tormented history in https://davidgottfried.substack.com/p/blacks-and-jews-and-the-cockeyed
At some point, some folks might want to reevaluate supporting the party that knows they have their vote, no matter how poorly they treat them. Or not. Free country. I didn’t see that you mentioned Asians but they also usually follow this pattern.
Extremely disconcerting that many Jews were unable to think critically and vote in their best interest. About 30 democrats voted for an arms embargo against Israel last week, 1 republican. Our fate as Jews is 100% intertwined with the fate of Israel and to back a party that wishes to see Israel destroyed is a form of suicidal empathy I cannot condone or comprehend. They won’t eat you last my Jewish brothers and sisters. You don’t have the love the big bad orange man, but stop pretending the antisemitism is equivalent or less dangerous amongst Democrats.
Calling BS here. I do not believe for a minute that the Jewish vote for Democrats not only held steady this election, but we reached the lowest point for GOP in 24 years. Just not believable. As the article admits, exit polls "aren't always accurate." That's a huge understatement.
I believe Jews have been slowly but steadily moving rightward since Obama, and even faster after and during Biden-Harris. There's a mountain of indirect evidence supporting this.
Who were you polling, Bernie Sanders? Woody Allen? In some election districts in the north, 100% of Jews voted for Trump. It is pure slander that Jews vote overwhelmingly for Democrats. Speak to anyone who actually practices Judaism, and they will tell you Trump was their only consideration. Who does these polls? How do they define Jew? What is their real agenda?
Studies have shown that the more “religious” (i.e. practicing) Jews are, the more conservative they are. In this election they saw one candidate who happens to have a Jewish daughter and another candidate who bent over backwards to curry the Arab vote with her (many) pro-Palestinian campaign comments. To anyone who cares about Israel the choice was clear. The Democrats showed their true colors when they tried to get all arms sales to Israel stopped — in the middle of fighting TWO wars!
It wasn’t just Israel. It was the woke nonsense, big government, open borders, crime, the economy, energy policy and of course world chaos
Apparently the exit polls for this last election don’t include NYC, LA and Chicago where the majority of American Jews live.
Sorry but the poll( it was a less reliable exit poll that didn’t even survey NY and LA) that showed 79 pct support seems way way off. Non Democratic Party funded polls had it in the low to mid 60s. And even that is probably high. As with other groups, many will not admit to voting for Trump, Jews being a higher likelihood of non admission. I will point at least three items which probably mean Trump received more than recognized.
1. Trump received over 30 pct in NYC. That couldn’t have happened without more Jews voting for Trump ( especially Queens with a large Orthodox population).
2. Many Jews are not comfortable admitting a vote for Trump. They tend to lie to pollsters or they will not vote for either candidate.
3. Democrats lost close to 500,000 votes. Many just didn’t vote or voted uncommitted. Many Jews were in that category ( committed democrats refusing to vote for Harris but couldn’t pull the trigger for Trump).
I anecdotally, know many in the orthodox community and they were the one group who publicly voted for Trump in major numbers. Many conservative denomination friends were on the fence ( and unlikely to admit to a Trump vote).
In short it does the Jewish community no benefit to tout high numbers for Harris, especially when probably not as true as prior years. A bipartisan community is more beneficial, as politicians need to earn our vote by being more pro Israel and more accountable in fighting antisemitism.
It’s Interesting that under Trump the Abraham Accords were signed granting heretofore unheard of diplomatic recognition and cooperation between Israel and four Arab states (UAE, Bahrain, Morocco, and Sudan, and Saudi Arabia is still pending), yet the media gave it scant attention. Al Gore got a Nobel Prize for his slide show with questionable statistics (and a blatantly false quote attributed to Chief Joseph’s love for the Buffalo he never saw in his life) and Obama got one for his Arab world apology tour. Trump facilitated the most momentous diplomatic agreements since Camp David and all there were was crickets. How any Jew can vote Democrat will forever remain a mystery to me.